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		<title>Comment on Ten Years Gone by Tom</title>
		<link>http://vickilemonds.com/2011/09/11/ten-years-gone/comment-page-1/#comment-200</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Sep 2011 14:23:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A very good remembrance  and a day that should stay in the hearts of all Americans</description>
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		<title>Comment on The Separation of Church &amp; State by Doug Indeap</title>
		<link>http://vickilemonds.com/2010/10/24/the-separation-of-church-state/comment-page-1/#comment-199</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug Indeap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Dec 2010 21:59:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The KKK-anti-Catholic smear against Justice Black is sometimes offered as an explanation for his opinion in Everson v. Board of Education--even though nothing in his opinions remotely supports that claim, all nine justices agreed on the principle that the First Amendment called for separation of church and state (so it was hardly just Black&#039;s doing), and Black led the majority of five in holding that the principle did NOT preclude state funding of transportation of students to parochial schools.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The KKK-anti-Catholic smear against Justice Black is sometimes offered as an explanation for his opinion in Everson v. Board of Education&#8211;even though nothing in his opinions remotely supports that claim, all nine justices agreed on the principle that the First Amendment called for separation of church and state (so it was hardly just Black&#8217;s doing), and Black led the majority of five in holding that the principle did NOT preclude state funding of transportation of students to parochial schools.</p>
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		<title>Comment on And furthermore&#8230;. by Dru</title>
		<link>http://vickilemonds.com/2010/11/22/and-furthermore/comment-page-1/#comment-190</link>
		<dc:creator>Dru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Nov 2010 23:42:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you tell &#039;em!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you tell &#8216;em!</p>
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		<title>Comment on The TSA (aka the Totally Stupid Administration?) by Marianne Arkins</title>
		<link>http://vickilemonds.com/2010/11/21/the-tsa-aka-the-totally-stupid-administration/comment-page-1/#comment-187</link>
		<dc:creator>Marianne Arkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Nov 2010 00:55:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll be honest ... I&#039;m on the fence about it.  I need to learn more in order to better educate myself.  OTOH, I haven&#039;t flown in ten years, mostly because it&#039;s a pain anymore.  I&#039;d rather drive or take the train.

Fact is this though -- the bad guys have been a step ahead of us all along.  I figure they already know how to get around these precautions, too.  :::shrugs:::</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll be honest &#8230; I&#8217;m on the fence about it.  I need to learn more in order to better educate myself.  OTOH, I haven&#8217;t flown in ten years, mostly because it&#8217;s a pain anymore.  I&#8217;d rather drive or take the train.</p>
<p>Fact is this though &#8212; the bad guys have been a step ahead of us all along.  I figure they already know how to get around these precautions, too.  :::shrugs:::</p>
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		<title>Comment on The TSA (aka the Totally Stupid Administration?) by Brandy</title>
		<link>http://vickilemonds.com/2010/11/21/the-tsa-aka-the-totally-stupid-administration/comment-page-1/#comment-186</link>
		<dc:creator>Brandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Nov 2010 22:46:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with the use of former military, but the Airlines and TSA will never go for it, it would cost too much money. This is a case of damed if you do and damned if you don&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with the use of former military, but the Airlines and TSA will never go for it, it would cost too much money. This is a case of damed if you do and damned if you don&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The TSA (aka the Totally Stupid Administration?) by Dru</title>
		<link>http://vickilemonds.com/2010/11/21/the-tsa-aka-the-totally-stupid-administration/comment-page-1/#comment-185</link>
		<dc:creator>Dru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Nov 2010 22:46:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hear you!  I&#039;m getting on a plane next month, so I&#039;m very concerned.</description>
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		<title>Comment on The Separation of Church &amp; State by Martin</title>
		<link>http://vickilemonds.com/2010/10/24/the-separation-of-church-state/comment-page-1/#comment-179</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Nov 2010 18:40:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To understand Justice Hugo Black&#039;s insertion of &quot;separation of church and state&quot; into the Constitution, it is important also to examine his membership in the KKK and his obsessive fear of Catholics, which he believed were &quot;taking over&quot; and needed to be stopped. What Black sought to do was to invent a firewall that clearly did not exist - one need only read our history or walk among the scripture-adorned buildings and monuments in Washington D.C. to see this quite clearly. 

Unfortunately, bigotry begets bigotry, and so what this man of the black robe and the white sheet has started, others – particularly in terms of a small confederation of those completely disinterested in U.S. history, its culture or the original intent of the Framers of the Constitution, to say nothing of the Constitution itself – have happily taken up.

Those who argue Black’s points merely present themselves as usually unwitting pawns of a man who is of the lowest character and whose legal professionalism lacks no spot or wrinkle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To understand Justice Hugo Black&#8217;s insertion of &#8220;separation of church and state&#8221; into the Constitution, it is important also to examine his membership in the KKK and his obsessive fear of Catholics, which he believed were &#8220;taking over&#8221; and needed to be stopped. What Black sought to do was to invent a firewall that clearly did not exist &#8211; one need only read our history or walk among the scripture-adorned buildings and monuments in Washington D.C. to see this quite clearly. </p>
<p>Unfortunately, bigotry begets bigotry, and so what this man of the black robe and the white sheet has started, others – particularly in terms of a small confederation of those completely disinterested in U.S. history, its culture or the original intent of the Framers of the Constitution, to say nothing of the Constitution itself – have happily taken up.</p>
<p>Those who argue Black’s points merely present themselves as usually unwitting pawns of a man who is of the lowest character and whose legal professionalism lacks no spot or wrinkle.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Separation of Church &amp; State by Doug Indeap</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug Indeap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Oct 2010 02:07:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The phrase “separation of church and state” is but a metaphor to describe the underlying principle of the First Amendment and the no-religious-test clause of the Constitution. That the phrase does not appear in the text of the Constitution assumes much importance, it seems, only to those who may have once labored under the misimpression it was there and, upon learning they were mistaken, figure they&#039;ve discovered the smoking gun solving a Constitutional mystery. To those familiar with the Constitution, the absence of the metaphor commonly used to describe one of its principles is no more consequential than the absence of other phrases (e.g., Bill of Rights, separation of powers, checks and balances, fair trial, religious liberty) used to describe other undoubted Constitutional principles. 

Some try to pass off the Supreme Court’s decision in Everson v. Board of Education as simply a misreading of Jefferson’s letter to the Danbury Baptists–as if that is the only basis of the Court’s decision. Instructive as that letter is, it played but a small part in the Court’s decision. Perhaps even more than Jefferson, James Madison influenced the Court’s view. Madison, who had a central role in drafting the Constitution and the First Amendment, confirmed that he understood them to “[s]trongly guard[] . . . the separation between Religion and Government.” Madison, Detached Memoranda (~1820). He made plain, too, that they guarded against more than just laws creating state sponsored churches or imposing a state religion. Mindful that even as new principles are proclaimed, old habits die hard and citizens and politicians could tend to entangle government and religion (e.g., “the appointment of chaplains to the two houses of Congress” and “for the army and navy” and “[r]eligious proclamations by the Executive recommending thanksgivings and fasts”), he considered the question whether these actions were “consistent with the Constitution, and with the pure principle of religious freedom” and responded: “In strictness the answer on both points must be in the negative. The Constitution of the United States forbids everything like an establishment of a national religion.”

The First Amendment embodies the simple, just idea that each of us should be free to exercise his or her religious views without expecting that the government will endorse or promote those views and without fearing that the government will endorse or promote the religious views of others. By keeping government and religion separate, the establishment clause serves to protect the freedom of all to exercise their religion. Reasonable people may differ, of course, on how these principles should be applied in particular situations, but the principles are hardly to be doubted. Moreover, they are good, sound principles that should be nurtured and defended, not attacked. Efforts to undercut our secular government by somehow merging or infusing it with religion should be resisted by every patriot.

Wake Forest University recently published a short, objective Q&amp;A primer on the current law of separation of church and state–as applied by the courts rather than as caricatured in the blogosphere. I commend it to you. http://tiny.cc/6nnnx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The phrase “separation of church and state” is but a metaphor to describe the underlying principle of the First Amendment and the no-religious-test clause of the Constitution. That the phrase does not appear in the text of the Constitution assumes much importance, it seems, only to those who may have once labored under the misimpression it was there and, upon learning they were mistaken, figure they&#8217;ve discovered the smoking gun solving a Constitutional mystery. To those familiar with the Constitution, the absence of the metaphor commonly used to describe one of its principles is no more consequential than the absence of other phrases (e.g., Bill of Rights, separation of powers, checks and balances, fair trial, religious liberty) used to describe other undoubted Constitutional principles. </p>
<p>Some try to pass off the Supreme Court’s decision in Everson v. Board of Education as simply a misreading of Jefferson’s letter to the Danbury Baptists–as if that is the only basis of the Court’s decision. Instructive as that letter is, it played but a small part in the Court’s decision. Perhaps even more than Jefferson, James Madison influenced the Court’s view. Madison, who had a central role in drafting the Constitution and the First Amendment, confirmed that he understood them to “[s]trongly guard[] . . . the separation between Religion and Government.” Madison, Detached Memoranda (~1820). He made plain, too, that they guarded against more than just laws creating state sponsored churches or imposing a state religion. Mindful that even as new principles are proclaimed, old habits die hard and citizens and politicians could tend to entangle government and religion (e.g., “the appointment of chaplains to the two houses of Congress” and “for the army and navy” and “[r]eligious proclamations by the Executive recommending thanksgivings and fasts”), he considered the question whether these actions were “consistent with the Constitution, and with the pure principle of religious freedom” and responded: “In strictness the answer on both points must be in the negative. The Constitution of the United States forbids everything like an establishment of a national religion.”</p>
<p>The First Amendment embodies the simple, just idea that each of us should be free to exercise his or her religious views without expecting that the government will endorse or promote those views and without fearing that the government will endorse or promote the religious views of others. By keeping government and religion separate, the establishment clause serves to protect the freedom of all to exercise their religion. Reasonable people may differ, of course, on how these principles should be applied in particular situations, but the principles are hardly to be doubted. Moreover, they are good, sound principles that should be nurtured and defended, not attacked. Efforts to undercut our secular government by somehow merging or infusing it with religion should be resisted by every patriot.</p>
<p>Wake Forest University recently published a short, objective Q&amp;A primer on the current law of separation of church and state–as applied by the courts rather than as caricatured in the blogosphere. I commend it to you. <a href="http://tiny.cc/6nnnx" rel="nofollow">http://tiny.cc/6nnnx</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on The Separation of Church &amp; State by Brandy</title>
		<link>http://vickilemonds.com/2010/10/24/the-separation-of-church-state/comment-page-1/#comment-135</link>
		<dc:creator>Brandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Oct 2010 23:55:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I SO agree with you. There&#039;s a semi-big thing going on in NC about a Christian flag on a war memorial. One person complained about it and the mayor and city council voted to take it down. A former soldier, a Vet, is staging a vigil to have the flag kept up. 
I am tired of being persecuted for being Christian. I think people also forget why the Pilgrims chose to come here to begin with. 
And taking prayer out of schools? Is it just me or are alot of the  kids since that was enacted more selfish and more disrespectful? (In public schools.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I SO agree with you. There&#8217;s a semi-big thing going on in NC about a Christian flag on a war memorial. One person complained about it and the mayor and city council voted to take it down. A former soldier, a Vet, is staging a vigil to have the flag kept up.<br />
I am tired of being persecuted for being Christian. I think people also forget why the Pilgrims chose to come here to begin with.<br />
And taking prayer out of schools? Is it just me or are alot of the  kids since that was enacted more selfish and more disrespectful? (In public schools.)</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Separation of Church &amp; State by Marianne Arkins</title>
		<link>http://vickilemonds.com/2010/10/24/the-separation-of-church-state/comment-page-1/#comment-134</link>
		<dc:creator>Marianne Arkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Oct 2010 20:37:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And now I wish your blog was the most popular blog in the blog-o-sphere... because more people need to see that.  

In fact, I think I&#039;m going to share it with some folks...  :grin:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And now I wish your blog was the most popular blog in the blog-o-sphere&#8230; because more people need to see that.  </p>
<p>In fact, I think I&#8217;m going to share it with some folks&#8230;  <img src='http://vickilemonds.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':grin:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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